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Summary: The Apostolic Church believes Christians are wrong. The Apostolic movement says the Trinity (One God in Three – Father, Son & Holy Spirit) is a false teaching. They are modalists.

(Modalism) is a denial of the Trinity which states that God is a single person who, throughout biblical history, has revealed Himself in three consecutive modes, or forms. Thus, God is a single person who first manifested himself in the mode of the Father in Old Testament times. At the incarnation, the mode was the Son. After Jesus’ ascension, the mode is the Holy Spirit. These modes are consecutive and never simultaneous. In other words, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit never all exist at the same time, only one after another. Modalism denies the distinctiveness of the three persons in the Trinity even though it retains the divinity of Christ.

Present day groups that hold to this error are the United Pentecostal and United Apostolic Churches. They deny the Trinity, teach that the name of God is Jesus, and require baptism for salvation. These modalist churches often accuse Trinitarians of teaching three gods. This is not what the Trinity is. The correct teaching of the Trinity is one God in three eternal coexistent persons: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. (Source: CARM)

For a larger and more in-depth work on this matter, I’d recommend The Trinity – Evidences & Issues by Dr. Bob Morey.

The second error the Apostolic Church holds is one that baptism ‘in Jesus name’ is necessary for salvation. This error negates that baptism is an outward sign or expression of what has taken place inwardly. I would recommend you read, Is Baptism Necessary for Salvation?

With so many theological errors, we recommend people avoid North Park Apostolic Church.

29 Comments

  1. As an apostolic evangelist, who through seeking God’s face through many days and nights in his word for myself, the Lord led me out of the Catholic faith into the truth. He is one! On the day the church was born the plan of salvation was laid out by the Holy Ghost using Peter , who had the key to open up the church. Jesus is the door, and he gave Peter the key! An unlocked door needs no key! Thats why Jesus told you and I to seek the truth! Truth is worth seeking for. It was easy to let others define it for me. But, every man(woman) has a responsiblity to seek the Lord for themselves. Acts 2:38 is the plan and it takes a sincere person who desires to know truth on the inward part to find the new birth experience just like the bible says. The Lord himself came to me and said”I am that I am , Jesus”. He is the one that died for us, he is the one thats coming back for the church, He is the one whose name seals us until that day. He is the door, the way, the truth and the light. Many so-called christians say they love Jesus, but will fight his name tooth and nail, but, I ask you what could be wrong with the name of Jesus? What part of All power in heaven and earth don’t you understand? He has all power, you and I have been made in his image, if you have three distinct personalities we would deem you to be pshycotic. Your god may not have a proper name, but mine has. He loved me so much he came himself, and died for me, and he’s so awesome he gave me his blood in washing away my sins through the bapt. in his name and because he is so awesome he gave me his spirit and it gives me the power to live and overcoming life! Glory to Jesus! He has promised me eternal life in his kingdom. I preach Jesus and him crucified and risen again, what could be wrong with Jesus !

    • to Philip in John 14:9 when Philip asked Jesus to show them the Father.Do you not believe Jesus is both God and man? If so, then what is the prelbom? In the last chapter of Revelation, Jesus said he is the root and the offspring of David.I can send you more if you are interested. E-mail me.The Trinity is a doctrine of confusion. The Bible does not say God in three persons, not one single time.The Catholic and Orthodox churches are not Apostolic because they do not do what the Apostles said.

  2. This is the BEST church in San Diego!!!!! The doctrine is sound, and the LOVE OF GOD is real in this church. If you are truly seeking after GOD, you will find HIM here.

  3. I am an Apostolic, born again of the water and Spirit! Everybody ought to know Who Jesus is! If you are searching for what is real and what is true, if you want to know what the truth is, then I highly recommend you begin praying for God to reveal Himself to you, and seek Him with all your heart. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God. If you need your faith increased, visit this church and let God bless you and minister to you. At this church you will learn how to repent, how baptism in Jesus’ Name washes away your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Ghost! There is no experience greater in this life than when Jesus fills you with His Spirit! Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is One Lord!

  4. The review contains numerous false statements.

    For those who do not accept baptism is Jesus name, why was everyone in the Christian church at Jerusalem and all other christian churches baptised this way for 325 years after the death and resurrection of Jesus. Baptism in Jesus name only occuried until the Council of Nicea that formed the Catholic Church. The word trinity is not in the Bible.

    Jesus did say “I and my Father are One”.

    Read the Bible and you will soon understand that the doctorine of this church is complete and accurate. And yes, all the other Christian churches are all daughters of the Catholic Church. The Apostolic Church existed a long time before the Catholic church. It was started by Jesus and his Disciples.

  5. Hmmm… Interesting. I don’t even go to North Park Apostolic Church, but I am Apostolic, and what I want to point out is the accusation that the Apostolic church believes that the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost all exist or existed only in sequence. And that they don’t all exist simultaneously. This is not true about the Apostolic Church. We believe that they all exist at once because God, who’s name is Jesus, never left the throne when he wrapped himself in flesh. In order for us to understand that he died for us, he had to become a fleshly being, because they couldn’t crucify a spirit. The carnal mind does not understand the things of the Spirit. So in defense of the Truth, the Bible says that things such as these would happen to the true church. People persecuting and slandering us. We must suffer with Him if we want to reign with Him. Forget the fact about the trinity, which my boy, Phillip, explained is not in the Bible. Understand that the true church is one who performs mighty acts of God… Healing in the name of Jesus, the blind being made to see, the lame being made to walk, etc. These things were performed by the APOSTLES (hence the word APOSTOLic), and were revived in 1906 at the church on Azuza street, who’s pastor I might add, was the founder and first presiding bishop of the pentecostal assemblies of the world (an APOSTOLic organization).

    Beyond all that, the scripture says, that the name of JESUS is the only name “under heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.” The scripture also says, “he that believes and is baptized, shall be saved.” It ALSO says, go ye therefore, teaching all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.” Now if we must baptize in the name of these, and baptism saves, and the name of JESUS is the only one “whereby we must be saved”, then we obviously need to go ahead and baptize JESUS’ name. Remember John 3:5 – “verily, verily I say unto you, except a man be born of the water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” If you reject Him, He’ll reject you. Peace, Joy, Love & Life. INK.

  6. ALL YOU TRINITARIANS TALK BAD ABOUT ONESS PENTACOSTALS.YOU YOURSELFS DONT EVEN KNOW YOUR OWN DOCTRINE!!!!! I JUST GOT BABTIZED 2 YEARS AGO.DURING ALL THESE TIME I THOUGH ALL DENOMANATIONS WERE ALIKE,BOY WAS I WRONG!! ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD, HIS NAME JESUS.THERE HAS TO BE A REVALATION FROM GOD IN ORDER FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND.THE ONLY DIFRENCE BETWEEN CATHOLICS AND TRINITARIANS IS THAT TRINITARIAN DON’T WORSHIP SAINTS AND CONFESS TO PRIEST,AND A FEW OTHER THINGS BUT THEY BELIVE IN THE TRINITY.WHICH BY THE WAY IT’S A MAN MADE DOCTINE!IF YOU DO YOUR RESEARCH THE CATHOLIC DOCTRINE COMES FROM BABYLON.THE EGYPTIANS HAVE THEIR TRINITY.THE BUDAIST HAVE THEIR TRINITY!! SOME SOCALLED CHRISTIANS ADOPT ALL THE PAGAN THINGS FROM THE CATHOLIC RELIGION AND BRING IT TO THEIR CHURCHES ESPECIALLY TRINITARIANS. FOR EX.YOU GUYS PUT CHRISTMAS TREES IN YOU CHURHES AND LIGHTS. WHICH BY THE WAY IT’S ONE OF THE MOST PAGAN HOLIDAYS.X-MASS IS NOT WHEN OUR SAVIOR WAS BORN DO YOUR HOME WORK AND LOTS OF PRAYER AND YOU WILL FIND OUT IT’S WHEN NIMROD WAS BORN READ JERAMIAH 10 IT WILL TELL WHAT THE X-MAS TREE IS PAGAN, PAGAN,PAGAN!!BUT YET YOUR CHURCHES PUT A CHRISTMAS TREE UP. IF TOU READ THE BIBLE JESUS WAS NOT BORN IN DECEMBER. SO DON’T GO MOKING OUR SOUND DOCTINE (READ THE BOOK OF ACTS) THE APOSTALS ALL BABTIZED IN JESUS NAME.SO LEAVE ALL YOUR PAGAN BELIVES BEFORE YOU GO MOKING GODS CHURCH.YOUR CHURCHES HAVE A LOT OF MEMBERS BECUSE IT’S SO SIMPLE TO BE A TRINITARIAN YOU GUY DON’T PREACH ABOUT REPENTANCE AND CONVICTIONS. THE REASON I KNOW IS BECAUSE I’VE GONE TO MANY TRINITARIAN SERVICES YOU GUY LOVE ERASEABLE BIBLES ONLY PREACH WHAT THE MASSES WANT TO HEAR.GOD IS LOVE BUT THERE IS ALSO A WRATH OF GOD THAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND. ONCE YOUR CHURCHES START TO PREACH HOW THE BIBLE TEACHES YOU’LL SEE HOW MANY PEOPLOE WILL LEAVE. BUT OF COURSE IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.SO GOAND STUDY THE BIBLE AND YOU WILL NEVER FIND THE WORD TRINITY WHY? BECAUSE IT DOES NOT EXIST IN THE BIBLE.SO STOP BEING SO IGNORANT AND PREACH THE TRUE GOSPEL AND STOP MOCKIN THE ONE AND ONLY SOUND DOCTINE.START BY NOT PUTTING UP THE X-MAS TREE AND YOU WILL SEE SOME REVALATION FROM GOD. JOEL

  7. Look reading your review of the church due to heresy is WRONG! I am not Apostolic or UPC, however I was raised in the PRESBYTERIAN FAITH…and you should read an article on the trinity from the PRESBYTERIAN standpoint which by the way is publsished on their website.

    http://www.pcusa.org/today/archive/believe/wpb9405.htm

    CHECK THIS OUT YOURSELF!

    Look I have been around for 45 yrs…not old and not young. I was christened United Methodist in the name of the FATHER

    However let me say this…GOD HAS NEVER EVER CHANGED…he has always been one and will remain one! HEAR OH ISRAEL the LORD OUR GOD IS ONE!

    John Calvin the great reformer and one of the founders of the Presbyterian and Reformed faith had a problem with the word PERSONS as well…for it is wrong and phsically impossible to be a person as know it. GOD IS A [email protected] However, John Calvin could not find a better word to define the personalities of GOD…you see we dont all need to be right. Some things are left as a mystery…and we are not supposed to know.

    This I do know….the name of Jesus is strong..and demons tremble at the name..salvation is in the name..the bible says that HE THAT CALLS UPON THE NAME” of the LORD shall be saved.

    When a person that says the believe in the trinity tries to define it and they explain it as if Jesus is not GOD and there are 3 beings floating around..that is WRONG and scripturally in error.

    When someone who is ONENESS tries to say that the name of JEHOVAL..was JESUS from the beginning that is not correct wither. JESUS WAS WITH THE FATHER FROM THE BEGINNING…the bible states it. He was not created for that moment. In order for God to redeem mankind he took upon himself that of flesh and bone. Jesus was in the beginning…he and the father are one..but GOD is not a modalist. In other words he does not change who he is like acts in a play. He is one…Jesus was with him form the beginning….the Holy Spirit is part of the GODHEAD. The bible says that the FULLNESS OF THE GODHEAD…dwells in bodily form.

    SO my point is this…to all my BORTHERS AND SISTERS in CHRIST….enough bickering….none of us are right! GOD IS RIGHT and he has the answers we dont. Let us go beyond the elementary teachings of our fatih and strive for maturity.

    Its ok to agree that we disagree. Let us focus on this…HE THAT CALLS UPON THE NAME of the LORD shall be saved! Lets LOVE one another as Christ loved the CHURCH. Lets not deny the name that is above all names…..at the NAME of JESUS every knee shall bow and tongue confess to THE GLORY OF GOD the FATHER> Remember GOD IS A SPIRIT…let us WORSHIP him in SPIRIT and in TRUTH!

    • So what is the name of the name of the father___________
      the son________
      the holy spirit________?
      He has 3 roles (Dad, son and holy ghost), regardless of the Council of Nicea’s advantageous vagueness on people of lesser grammatical brightness to keep the people in darkness ( Nicea, Jesuits/illuminati) but when will someone stand up to bring Matthew 28:19, “ïn the name” which obviously describes a proper noun, which is then summed up in Acts 2:38=Jesus-together? Maybe Christians should just be clear on what they mean when they baptize and clearly say “I baptize you in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost-which is Jesus” The book of Matthew and the book of Acts are both in the same Bible. When will someone bright start baptizing in the complete way and finally stop fighting? This is getting old-Hope it helps

  8. Some things are revealed by the Spirit. Surely the “understanding” of the Godhead is a revelation. Jesus asked, “Who do men say that I am”?
    The answer……….was revealed by the Father—by the Spirit, not by the flesh. Upon this rock, Peter’s answer, the church was to be built. Peter, because of his revelation, was given the “keys” to the kingdom. The keys were to open up the church in Acts 2. (2:38), etc.

  9. San Deigo Review;

    What bible are you reading from? In my bible it says in the book of John 3:3-7,(3) Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, Verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the Kingdom of God…(4) Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into hi mother’s womb, and be born? (5) Jesus answered, Verily, Verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God…(6) That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit…(7) Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again….So where do you get your information that a person does not need to be born of the water…The only error is your own thinking of the word of God…And as far as the trinity is concerned, God himself said that he is the one and only Lord; in the book of Isaiah 43:11 I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour… Isaiah 44:6-8 (6) Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God…John 10:30 I and my Father are one…..Malachi 2:10
    Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers? Oh Yeah, John 1:1,14 (1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God…(14)And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth)…Hmmm, sounds like one God to me…The trinity is false doctrine that man has came up with, there is no trinity in the bible, if it is not in the bible, then it is not of God….Oh, and who is the Father? Who is the Son? Who is the Holy Ghost?
    The answer is “Jesus Christ”, and I have bible for that….Why do you people insist on the separation of God….And if your not teaching water baptism, then how do you explain what God commanded us to do, “To Be Born Again”…. I John5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the father, the Word, and the Holy ghost: and these three are one…..Jesus also said in the book of Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty….These are only but a few scriptures on the oneiness of God, there are many more….I also have another question for you, do you also believe in once saved always saved to….Because that is also a man made doctrine that is not in the bible….Not needing to be baptized, the trinity, once saved always saved are lies from hell and the devil is the father of it….. http://www.truthbear01.blogspot.com

    Yours Truly;
    Johnnie Roll

  10. The writer of the review for North Park Apostolic Church needs to visit the church before he takes such a negative and biased view. Had he bothered to visit he would find some of the kindest, most caring and loving people anywhere. Their worship is heartfelt and sincere. The teaching and preaching is clear and passionate. And above all, doctrinally correct. I challenge him ot sit down for an hour with the pastor and discuss the scriptures. I am sure he would find what I found almost 30 years ago, having been raised in a dead, formalistic faith that ‘had a form of godliness but denyed the power thereof.’ The Bible teaching on the Oneness of God is one of the clearest and easiest to understand truths in God’s word. If you are looking for a church that stands for truth and lives what they preach, you will find it at North Park Apostolic Church, or most any Apostolic church in your area. God bless and I hope to see you there.

  11. Your review is false and misleading. North Park Apostolic Church is a wonderful place to worship and grow in God. The services are powerful with the presence of God. The current service location is downtown at 202 “C” Street inside Golden Hall, Sunday’s at 10:00 a.m. God visits this church every week, you should too!

  12. These are truly the last days! Congress is slowly, but surely taking God out of mainstream society, no prayer in schools, no 10 commandments in the courts(by the way… which America was founded on by our forefathers), Human ID tags being implanted(check out http://www.verichip.com), gay unions(sodom & gommorah…rings a bell?), men with “itching ears” running to perverse doctrine(is this the dillusion from GOD spoken of in the bible?). And NOW this review beating down the precious name of JESUS? Whats up with that? I have attended North Park Apostolic Church and that place is FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST, ya heard. I have repented, been baptised in the name of Jesus, and check this out…GOD HIMSELF GAVE ME PROOF OF HIS INDWELLING WITHIN ME, I HAD SPOKE IN TONGUE!!!! Me, myself witnessed this, and believe me, it was not of myself, This was the evidence spoken of straight out of scripture!!! This review is clearly just another attempt of the ENEMY OF THE HUMAN RACE(SATAN), trying to cause division, separate and attack the weak with another whimsical doctrine. To Pastor Joel Trout…keep on preaching, even if you have to be like John(one voice crying in the wilderness, I’ll share some locust and wild honey with you anytime), and I thank you for bringing the realization of the truth to my ears, no matter what the WORLD thinks of you. All true followers of Christ have persecution at one time or another, thats just another evidence of the Holy Spirit indwelling( why would the devil try and upset people that he already has, he attacks us because he know that his days are short, and hitting us with everything he has). The review is wrong and the DEVIL himself is behind it!!!

  13. This topic is now stirring other in a wrong direction.

    As quoted, “The Apostolic Church believes Christians are wrong. The Apostolic movement says the Trinity (One God in Three – Father, Son & Holy Spirit) is a false teaching. They are modalists.”

    As an Apostolic Evangelist, I can reinsure you that this faith does not believe that Christians are wrong. In fact, I am a Christian. The word Christian means to be “Christ Like”. As for the belief the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. I do believe in this statement. One, He is the Father through creation, Son through redemption and Holy Spirit through the infilling of His Spirit in me with the evidence in speaking in tongues.

    You see it is Revelation! Peter was reveled when he declared the Jesus was the son of God. Jesus replied that flesh and blood has not reveled but it came from above.

    I believe that there is only One God but in three manifestations, (not co-equal, co-eternal, separate distinct persons.)

    Salvation comes through the blood of the Lamb (Jesus). With out this blood there is no remission from sins. Act 2:38 declare, Repent and be baptized in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    There is Only “One Lord, One Faith and One Baptism”

    Though the Word of God is not for debate but it for direction. If there is confusion, the bible declares that “God is not the author of confusion.”

    I encourage you to seek Him for your self and I God will manifest Himself through revelation that will draw you closer to Him. Just seek the Kingdom of God.

    As in the case of North Park Apostolic Church. This church has been the refuge place for many of the broken hearted, down, sick, and discouraged and all walks of life. As they came in many have been restored in brought into a renewed spirit through Christ. Many people look down or stir up false arguments towards faith and churches. But I tell you one thing and you can quote me,

    “A man with an experience is greater than a man with an argument.”

    Experience Him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  14. I used to attend North Park. I found that they try to break up homes, destroy families, and break up friends. If you’re not careful, given a chance they will assassinate your charater and destroy you socially. I have heard the pastor himself slander other pastors and their members and new churches which are not in His group (he has his own organization). He left Pentecostal Assemblies of the World himself. He uses his influence with the congregation such that they are very hostile towards anyone who does not totally agree with him. They may pretend to love you, but if you don’t fall in line with their way, the reality surfaces soon enough. It kind of reminds me of the Muslims, except, at least as of today, I am not aware that NPAC has had anyone killed for not believing as they do, but they will kill your character and destroy your reputation.

    They believe that they are the only ones going to heaven, and that God only speaks to them. Their pastor has not only condemned trinitarians, he has condemned even other Apostolics who don’t preach exactly as he does, yet they will invite other preachers, recording artists, etc, who are not Apostolics to the church. It seems rather hypocritical to me to have Karen Clark-Sheard sing at your church when you really believe that she is going to hell. In truth, they only love those who believe as they do, but they will pretend to love you, just like a Jehovah’s Witness does, in order to win you.

    To those of you who read this and are NPAC people: I know that I belong to Christ, and am covered by His blood. No weapon formed against me shall prosper, and every tongue that rises against me in judgment shall be condemned. This is my heritage. Everything I said above is what happenned to me, that is how I know about it. As the person above me said, “a woman with an experience is greater than a man with an argument!” Whatever you may argue about Apostolic Doctrine, I have experienced the meanness, hostility, and coldness which NPAC displayed towards me simply because I had seen enough of life to know that there are saved people outside of NPAC.

    • I know what you are talking about. I experienced it too and found myself being very miserable having to be in the faces and spending so much time with people who I know did not care about me, but wanted to control me for God-knows what reasons… I had to leave that place.

  15. Jesus Only Heretical churches i.e. Oneness/Modalist and Baptismal Regeneration Churches, the Lord pronounces “Anathema” to you.
    However, you are not without hope:
    Read the book of Romans. It set Martin Luther free, it may set you free in
    Grace too!

  16. I agree with Marie (commentator above me) and the reviewer of NPAC. I also attended this church and experienced the snobbery and arrogance of it’s church members. They seem more wrapped up in their music programs and their own little church group instead of fellowshipping with other believers and putting more of an emphasis on preaching the gospel. I got bad vibes from even being in that church.
    There are 3 personages of ONE God, the bible is very clear on that. Can’t see how anyone who claims to be a Christian might have missed THAT. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost, yet one God. They say that the bible does not actually have the word “trinity” in it, which is true, but the bible doesn’t actually have the word “rapture” in it yet you believe in that too, lol.

    The bible does speak of the last days that there will be cults, new religions that will grow and think that everyone is wrong if they are not associated in their little group. NPAC is one of them.

    • I was hurt there too and there was a lot af paronoia and snobbiness like you said. Also a lot of women in my husbands face… LOL. We are not together anymore. That was more or less HIS CHURCH. He took me there and told me that he was respondible for getting me to heaven. I don’t know who told him that, but I thought we’re all responsible for our own salvation.

  17. Greetings in the wonderful name of Jesus,

    “I am writing on behalf of North Park Apostolic Church (NPAC) concerning the article, and response of Sis. Marie. 1st i would like to say, being an Apostolic, that the Apostolic church does not nessessarily believe that all others are on their way to hell. I myself did not grow up in the Apostolic Faith. i grew up preaching and teaching the trinitarian doctrine, and the “sinner’s prayer”. However, as i grew in the lord God began to deal with me and open up my understanding to look beyond that which i taught and into what the WORD OF GOD SAYS. Exuse my ghetto, but it don’t matter how YOU FEEL because YOU AND FEEL EQUALS FLESH! I having the holyghost before I came into the truth, believe that if I was to die before being batized in Jesus’ name, i would have went to heaven, because God holds you accountable for what you know. however once you know he holds you accountable. also i don’t believe that he who filled me would allow me to die without being baptized in Jesus’ name! In response to the review, I knowing the pastor of NPAC, know that he is a mighty man of God who has a sweet spirit, diligence, and kind heart. please do not shun him for defending what he knows to be the truth. I also know his father who is my current pastor and he founded NPAC. FOR MORE INFO ON THE APOSTOLIC WAY READ ACTS 2:38 ACTS 19:1-5 1 COLOSSIANS 2 . AND FOCUS ON ACTS CHAPTER 4!!! GOD BLESS!!!

  18. This reply is being posted in response to last few negative replies about Bishop Joel Trout and the NPAC family. NPAC is very strong and anointed church who was has vision of reaching the city of san diego. I have personally attended this church many times and have always enjoyed the experience. I can sense some hurt and pain that has envolved to bitterness and that is why you are TRYING to destroy the work that God is doing. Let me remind you that sciupture intructs us to touch not the anointed. It is not our place to point out falt in the man of God. For when we come against the men God has called to lead his church you come against God. So before your ego takes you to place where you feel so important that your words can kill the revivial spirt in this church, Just remember that God never losses a battle so chose your fight well. I pray that you in the right spirt deal with your hurts and pains that people caused you, and that you make heaven your home.

  19. I have been saved and FILLED with the baptism of the Holyghost for three years now. I was not baptized in Jesus’ name, and I am a firm believer in the Trinity. I recieved Christ by praying a Simple prayer according to Romans 10:9. As I continued seeking GOD, HE delivered me from many strongholds, one being sexual immorality. Three months later, I recieved the gift of the Holyghost and the evidence of speaking in tongues as the SPIRIT gave utterance.(It wasn’t nothin fake about it.) So many times man’s interpretation of the WORD can be so silly. It’s kind of like if you and I were reading the same book. Your interpretation may be a little different than mine, but it doesn’t make either one right. Every word of GOD is right, not our word. I am not denying the power of the NAME, because everything I do, I do it in the NAME. HIS name is very powerful. I just never could understand how Jesus could be praying to the father in heaven if you all are claiming that he literally came down.?? One thing I know, you shouldn’t let your personal doctrine cause you to be involved in foolish arguments and vain babblings…thats scripture. You can argue doctrine all day long and get no where, but while you,re arguing, remember the souls that could be saved in the time you wasted arguing. One more thing, you NEVER let PEOPLE run you away from a church. GOD places HIS people where HE pleases.
    IN HIM

  20. For all those who deny the trinity you need to take a serious lookat the bible and see what it says about the doctrine of the trinity.I will start with Genesis 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image. Here we have the godhead communicating with one another about the creation of man.Notice the word our which is plural.If Jesus was the onlyperson in the godhead it would read”And God said, Let us make man in my image”because there is only one person inthe godhead.So who was God talking to if not the other 2 members of the godhead?it could not have been the angels because the bible does not record angels creating anything at anytime nor does the scripture record us being created in the image of angels.Next we have Genesis 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us.Again we have indicating a plurality of the godhead”us” which contradicts the false position of one person inthe godhead.Another that whenever God is referred to in the old tesatment the hebrew word used echad which is plural in substance and one in unity.The word for the singular one is yachid and it was never used in reference to God.Inthe new testament we have Matthew 3:16-17

    16 After being baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove and lighting on Him,

    17and behold, a voice out of the heavens said, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased.”

    These are just a few examples of the trinity found in the bible yet nowhere in scripture will you find verses to supprt the false doctrine that Jesus is the father,son,and holy spirit.By the way the trinity is not pagan nor is it an invention of the early Roman Catholic since they denied the doctrine of the trinity.I will address other issues with the apostolic church teachings at a later date.

  21. this is in response to Mike’s August 11th notation. Regarding Genesis 1:26 the Bible said ” And God said, Let us make man in my image…” the common trinitarian misconception is to equate that as the father speaking to the son and the holy spirit. However, the bible reads that GOD said not the father. Many New Testament references quote Jesus refering to himself as the father, especially “I and my father are one. If you have seen me you have seen the father”. I’ll let you find the rest. Also, if you study the Old Testament you will see that certain kings were quoted as speaking in collective language, i.e. us,we,etc., yet was refering strictly to himself or theirself and what they were to do. Have you ever went through a mental checklist in your mind concerning chores you had to do for the day and ever said “Lets see what do we have to do today?” This is the same as to what God was doing, not speaking to another in the trinity. God created the heavens and the earth by himself, who stretched forth the heavens alone by himself. Secondly, if you reread Matthew 3:16-17 and correlating scripture, you will see not the trinity in action but something else. REREAD CAREFULLY. the voice from heaven was for the benefit of the people. the spirit descending upon Jesus was for the benefit of JOHN! John did not know who the messiah was but was instructed by God that the one who you see the spirit descending upon is the messiah. Since the Spirit is invisible the dove became the visual manifestation so that John could see it. Only 3 times in New Testament history did the voice from heaven ever occur. At Jesus’ transfiguration, baptism, and triumphant entry and all were for the benefit of the people!!! Thus far it is evident with just these scriptures that Jesus is the father, obviously the son, but what about the Holy spirit? Jesus says that the father will send the spirit in his name. Why would it come in Jesus’ name if the spirit wasn’t him? Jesus is the father in creation, the son in redemption, and the Holy Spirit in adoption. When Stephen was stoned he saw Jesus, John recorded One sitting on the throne and that is Jesus. According the the definition of the trinity, God is 3 distinct, co-equal, co-eternal beings. Which is easier to receive 1 God or 3 somehow operating as one. The trinity gets more confusing as time goes on. Not even trinitarians can define their position collectively. Ultimately, God is sovereign and this walk is more that just doctrine. Its about JESUS!

  22. Does this site still get updated? I wanted to contact administration directly but i didn’t see a link to that.

    It takes courage to write negative views on churches. I find this site very useful. I am new to SD. I appreciate it. I know people will get upset over them, but as an outside observer i don’t think you are being biased or unfair.

    I have always had a hard time with the Trinity doctrine. Its true trinity isn’t used in the Bible. I am reading the Bible and praying that i can have some peace on that issue.

    i don’t think water baptism is required. What about people that chose to believe and then don’t get the chance to be baptized? they don’t get to go to heaven over a technicality? Doesn’t sit well with me. You should be baptized in water, because Jesus was.

  23. I went to pentecostal school. Pentecostals do believe that God is omniscient(all-knowing), omnipotent(all-powerful) and Eternal(never ceasing to exist)-the “I Am”-contrary to what you wrote.. They believe that the “modes” as you put it-are- simultaneous. They believe God has no limit and can exist or manifest himself in any way he wants to. Pentecostals also do not deny the “trinity” only question the word itself-as the word trinity itself does not appear once in the bible-However, they do believe and reverence the father, believe and reverence the son, believe and reverence his spirit- however, they believe that all these 3 are one-because Jesus said so in John 17:20-and they don’t try to explain it-because it Jesus said it -it’s good enough. They do baptize in Jesus’ name- because it (the bible) does say to in Acts 2:38. If people were smarter, they could see that when Matthew 23:19 says “baptizing them “In the “name”–”name” obviously refers to a proper noun, which is revealed later in Acts 2:38 as Jesus. In the name of the father, son and the holy ghost-which is Jesus. Pentecostals don’t try to hide books or verses of the bible, they show you how they interact with each other. For instance Matthew 23:19, and Acts 2:38 are both highlighted and explain each other. Matthew and Acts are both part of the same book called Bible. Other religions try to hide certain scriptures.

  24. Matthew 23:19, Matthew 28:19, and Acts 2:38. Pentecostals fully reverence the name of Jesus in baptism. I don’t understand how people can be so disappreciative of the verse Acts 2:38, which clearly explains Matt 28:19-since both scriptures are part of the same bible. As a student in a Pentecostal school, it was plain to observe that pentecostals feel for Jesus, in how he must feel (disappreciated),”dissed” since so many people read Acts 2:38-”baptism in the name of Jesus Christ” and they still exclude saying his name in baptism-so sad . Personally, I am currently looking for a church that celebrates his name in baptism. I tell God, “I want to be one who brings that smile to your face- I want to show you that I love your name and that your name is important to me” one day God, I want you to say “Thank you for reverencing and celebrating my name- when so many did not think it was so important-”

  25. Everybody wake up! The council of Nicea, illuminati and Jesuits
    want to keep it a secret -the name of Jesus in baptism has the power to break through anything! to forgive you of any sins and get you to heaven. They wanted you to concentrate on the titles father, son , holy ghost, to keep you from the POWER! Reverence the Father, son , and Holy Ghost, but don’t believe the lie that the name of GOd is of not too much importance! before the tribulation GOd will take the people who have his name on them, like a groom takes his bride with his name-BE READY -RFID chip implantation is right around the corner in 2013 so the illuminati can keep tabs on your every move like a red light on a radar screen-GOd comes back before the mark of the beast—B READY-not time to play or argue anymore

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